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Viva Turbo 2
« on: February 07, 2008, 09:47:44 PM »

Viva Turbo thread is a too lengthy now...

For those who still want to view it, click "Viva Turbo"

Please continue discussion here..
TQ.. grin
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Re: Viva Turbo 2
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2008, 02:22:41 PM »

Lets make it easier so the laymen might have better picture....

Human Anatomy.....

how to make ur physical stronger, healthier, tougher?

Exercise, by doing regular excersizing, u will improve ur blood flows, improve ur breathing, and improve ur digestions.....without needing lots of food supplement, u need less energy for ur cardio reactions
(correct running in process towards the engine, less carbon residue stuck to the fuel system, injectors, piston, and with the right air fuel ratio, better digestions, fuel economy)

by doing more cardio, i.e running and swimming, u will enhance ur lungs capacity, thus giving u better breathing,with cleaner air intake towards ur lungs= the healthier the lungs, the stronger breathing intake u have, the better hemoglobin ur blood system
(cold air intake, enhance intake capacity, high air flow capacity, improve combustion whenever the clean,fresh & large amount of air mixed with fuel, thus giving u perfect combustion cycle)

u all may think the logics from here, feel free to add more examples like the above.......

Human Anatomy and engine power, basically the same concept and idea but in much differ forms, the basic concepts = air coming in, the transfer of energy, air/unwanted gases coming out; like farts and $&!@s

ust to add how I see things and the comparision.....

What is Turbocharge car and how does it perform?
Turbocharge basically like Heavy weight boxers i.e Mike Tyson or Football player like Maradonna, powerful, strong, can knockdown a bull with a single blow, solid hard to beat, but impractical, fast but within certain limitation and not that reliable.

What is NA cars what about its performance?
Its something like lighweight boxers or ping pong players, fast, efficient, reliable, durable, longer stamina, but their speed depends how light they are

What is NA car that can beat a Turbocharge how does the performance?

Very simple, like Bruce Lee, strong, hard to knock down,got everything whatever the NA and Turbocharge got, tactical, wwooooowachaaa wacha wacha(mulut bising), hard to beat, unlogical, unbeatable, some might call lansi or crazy, produce result, maybe not famous but ramai sakit hati, thats why BruceLee mati.....

NA that can beat a Turbocharge = a super lighweight car using modified Superbike engine, 0-100 less than 4sec, quartermile might touch below 9sec with the speed of more than 220kmh.......

a Kit Car......
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« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2008, 08:47:53 PM »

to mr. azray
            tolong terangkan kepada kami nape pilih supercharger dari turbo..hehe..
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« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2008, 08:53:14 PM »

yer lar...naper eh mr azray...
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« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2008, 09:43:57 PM »

Salam beb gua nak tanya ni.. Gua nyer viva cover rim tu tercabut ke hilang tak tau... Ade tak yang spare2 punya ker... Atau 2nd punya.. KE. Gua nak nak beli la beb..Gua carik kat klang ni takde la...
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« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2008, 11:33:14 PM »

salam beb gua nak tanya ni.. Gua nyer viva cover rim tu tercabut ke hilang tak tau... Ade tak yang spare2 punya ker... Atau 2nd punya.. KE. Gua nak nak beli la beb..Gua carik kat klang ni takde la...

bro..cube check kat buy and sell punye board..klau tiada ko bukak la thread kate nak beli rim punye cap..gud luck..
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« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2008, 12:24:15 PM »

pada pendapat hyuga...hyuga prefer supercharge,mmg xbest sgt sbb tiada bunyi psssssstttt hehe wink tp ada a few different yg jd reason knp hyuga pilih supercharge...

1) turbo xberfungsi dgn baik at low rev compare tu supercharge,ble kte drive at low rev kete turbo langsung tiada pickup,atau lbh mudah mslh turbo lag....kete turbo utk lbh pickup kdg2 dorg terus tukar turbin yg lbh besar,mmg pickup best tp mslh turbo lag jd lbh teruk...berbanding kete supercharge....

2)smbg dr reason 1,engine kete turbo lbh byk pkai minyak&engine selalunya cepat panas,gas atau udara di sedut dr exhaust with high temperature,sbb tu intercooler sgt penting utk engine turbo. satu lg amalan yg penting bgi kete turbo kena biar turbin slow down dulu...xblh mati engine terus tuh yg pkai turbo timmer,utk elak overheating kat turbin...byk skt lh yg perlu dijaga kalau pkai turbo ni.

3)pickup mmg lbh pada turbo tp utk long run hehe=) supercharge menang...minyak plak..erm susah nk banding tp blh di budget turbo pakai lbh minyak.

dua-dua sama je sistem yg provide high air pressure to engine.
hyuga bgi komen best on xperiance...hyuga uat perbanding dgn drive wira evo 2,kancil L2,mazda B8 utk turbo dan toyota levin dan saga supercharge....itu pn sebenarnya toyota levin blh klah kn pickup mazda B8 sebenarnya... police


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« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2008, 01:06:19 PM »

eh..supercharger xprlukan intercooler ek?sbb die gune air intake yg sejukkan berbanding turbo guna exhaust flow kan?
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« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2008, 01:53:45 PM »

Yup btul tuh...utk supercharge xperlu ada intercooler...engine pn xsepanas engine turbo... wink
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Re: Viva Turbo 2
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2008, 04:55:50 PM »

1st...supercharge(SC) n turbo adalah system air force induction...
so pressure nya adalah press +ve...

I'm prefer supercharge...

1)power boost ada  'mari'serendah 1000 rpm lagi..
   (turbo lag bagi low boost terjadi coz size piping air intake x 'match' dgn size turbo...bla..bla...)
2)maintenance agak rendah dari turbo system...
3)takde masalah boost lost..overheat yg melampau-lampau...
4)ada sedikit kepakaran memasang supercharge hehehe...turbo aku tak reti mana...

info (ni mana yg aku tahula..salah bagitahu rr)
-intercooler penting (wajib) bagi kedua system ini...jika anda bermain dgn medium dan high boost...(0.9-2.0 bar..)
 suhu berkadar terus dgn tekanan...so supercharge juga akan hasilkan udara yg panas...so ia perlukan medium utk
 proses penyejukan berlaku..intercooler ke...watercooler ke...air cooler ke...

-"sbb die gune air intake yg sejukkan berbanding turbo guna exhaust flow kan?" boleh aku perbetulkan statement ni?
  exhaust flow adalah penjana 'driver' bagi turbine...turbine bersambung ke turbo(driven).....
  sama juga dgn supercharge...crank pulley sbg penjana 'driver' SC pulley..SC byk jenis...screw type..ball...bla..bla..
  so air intake takkan sesejuk dari air intake NA..

-segala info lain..boleh rujuk hyuga...hehehe aku bukan pomen...tapi utk kete sendiri..memang aku 'pomen'...

--pernah 'makan' wira evo 3 masa drag race ....hanya guna demo car...iswara 1.3 supercharge high boost..tapi bukan aku drebar....member aku daa...--
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